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CG Networks --- Master and Servant Challenge (CG Challenge XVII)
2D Grand Prize Winner
Linda Bergkvist ( Enayla )
翻譯:小雨
(翻這篇真的很累,雖然是被我硬凹才翻的~ ^_^lll )
Concept/Colour sketch
There are things about this sketch I am quite happy with: the pose of the human being one. Other things I realise now that I need to work on much more - the pose of the other creature has to be by far more graceful, and the colours feel too uniform and far too greenish.
Usually, before even starting on a painting, I'll do a colour scheme. This helps me with inspiration.
通常在正式上色前,我 我都會先排列一下我將用到的色調,這樣做可以刺激些靈感.
Character Concept
This is the character concept for the nature spirit. I am still undecided as to whether using a mask or not. I finally decided on what kind of features I would use for her - and I like them so much I'm a little wary of covering them up.
The first concept sketch was more of a generic face but the look I want for her is a little like an actress from the forties, fifties, that timeless kind of elegance. Not a cute little button nose, either, I want it slightly arched. I'm leaving the cute features for the human character.
Also in this sketch are little concepts for her dress where the butterflies and flowers will lift from the fabric and become real. I'm thinking the entire image will be filled with these, fluttering to rotting deaths wherever they touch the human. Also, I've settled on kalla lilies for the hair. Well, I think I have, anyway.
這張是主人(自然的精靈)的腳色設定,我在猶豫著到底要不要加面具,最後我決定了他的表現方式,我打算這麼做因為我實在太喜歡它了,爾且我開始有點擔心如果放上面具會把它蓋掉太多.
在第一張速寫概念的人臉有點太過於普通,我想要的是像四五十年代女明星的那種永恆的優美.鼻子部分要有點弓形,而不是像個可愛的小釦子.那些可愛的形象就留給人類.
再來我將我的一些想法用於主人(自然的精靈)的衣服部分,將原是衣服的紋路的蝴蝶與花草會"飄"出變成真實的生物,我想,整個圖都會用同樣的效果處理.只要一碰到人類,它們就會幻化死亡,嗯~我想那些要放在頭髮上的百合也想好了... 應該..
The concept for the human was way easier. There's no issue of masks or frilly stuff, here. She'll wear a pretty simple knee-length dress with a pattern like the one I sketched together here. I needed to design something that felt genuine, but that wasn't too flowery. So, little snirklies and curlies, it is.
I'd already decided pretty early on that she'd have straw in her hair (look at the concept sketch) so adding that was a natural touch. I also wanted freckles, a cute little upturned nose and a very genuinely featured face (in other words, not ethereally beautiful like I intend for the nature creature to be. I want this girl to be very obviously human). So that's it. That's the second character. There will likely be a few dead leaves in her hair, some feathers from the birds that have fallen unto the ground, etc... but I don't feel a need to add them into the concept sketch :]
至於人類的部分就簡單得多了,不用想面具還是那些裝飾品,她會穿一件設計簡單的及膝洋裝,衣服花紋就如圖的右邊部分,花紋主要高雅簡單不花俏...
所以,一點點曲線妝點就可以了,頭髮上的麥桿部分是很早就想好了,目的是增加自然感覺.臉上要有點雀斑,小鼻子要有點上翹...當然要有個很純真的臉 (帶點美的平凡).頭髮上會加些枯葉,掉落的羽毛
I'm not too happy with working without colours. But I felt this would be a challenge so I decided to go for it. I am waiting with the background until I can block it out in colour later on, though, but I gave the characters a shot.
This is as close to a line drawing as I think I'll ever come. I sketched on the faces off and on a LOT, and decided, in the end, to go for the mask after all. I don't like just letting go of an idea I liked so much - if it turns out, in the end, that the mask doesn't work I can always remove it. I ended up liking the fact that it hides a little of her emotion - the eyes looked too large and too emotional, she's supposed to be proud and serene after al. I do believe I will use some of the advice I've been given and work on her lips - give emotion through the expression of the mouth alone. We'll see.
Aside from that, drawing without colour makes me a little sad and uninspired. On the other hand, I just came back from watching Finding Neverland, so I'm feeling a wash of inspiration come over me. What I'll do is take the black and white picture and use it as a soft light overlay on the earlier concept sketch - then I'll just paint over it, clean and simple, layer after layer. I've never painted like this for years.
I'm hoping I'll get the feel for it back once there's more colour.
想說挑戰一下黑白設定,不過畫起來不太順...但是還是繼續試試,反正背景部分還沒有頭緒.畫到最後有點像線稿,精靈還是決定戴上面具... 有點失落,因為要放棄我一直很喜歡的構想.不過,如果戴了面具後不好看,我還是可以移除掉,想了一下,這也好. 面具可以隱藏起她的一些情感,原本的眼睛看起來太大太脆弱...
一個精靈必需要穩重與自負,唯一露出的嘴唇就成了情感表現的重點,再看看吧~此外,沒有色彩畫起來真是讓我措敗.剛看完"彼得潘",覺得有許多靈感浮現,決定了,我把這張黑白放在色彩的那圖層的上方, 淡淡覆蓋過.然後再上色蓋過... 簡單明瞭...
一層層疊上,話說,很久沒這樣畫過了,希望回來再用色彩塗後,靈感會回來.
In this first colour step, I have simply taken the black and white sketch and superimposed it upon the initial concept sketch I made. A few quick adjustments and I could see a hint of what the picture will become. Too high contrast and sloppy details make me annoyed at this stage. I'll go ahead and paint over this and see where I've settled then.
第一階段上色,如先前所說,我將黑白的那張跟一開始的彩色稿放一塊.稍微調整一下, 隱約可看出這張圖未來將會完成樣子.
對那有點過高的對比跟粗糙的細部有點惱... 還是繼續塗吧~再看看如何處理.
Coloring WIP
I simply can't stop.
After having used the black and white picture as an overlay on the initial sketch, I set about painting over the whole thing with colours that felt more right. I lessened the contrast and gave the characters more believable skin tones, at the same time as I felt a need to shift the human character's legs slightly to make her balance against the fey.
I started to paint in the left leg of the nature spirit but I realise now I have to wait until later with that... as well as this first attempt being ridiculously messed up (it's just not attached right, and it's looking, well, clumsy). What I'll do is wait for daylight and then pose a little in front of a mirror, try to figure the leg out.
Aside from that, I have the first colour version done. I've been using the colours from my very first colour scheme test - I usually change it in between stages, but it still feels right. The flowers will be whiter, the background more freshed out (but still discreet, I intend for there to be so many little details that it'd be too busy otherwise) and there are some things I'm still not too sure about. At least I got rid of the overall too-green look of the initial colour sketch.
The murkiness will be helped when the details are fleshed out, I'm sure
停不下來說....
一開始塗色... 我選擇一些看起來較有說服力,較接近自然的顏色... 減少那過高對比的衝突.
同時,我覺得那個人類的腳可能需要移動,讓她平衡點... 不然看起來好像垂死樣.
原本開始給精靈的左腳上色,卻發現... 這真是一個可笑的舉動.還是留到後面再畫吧~
(那隻腳怎麼看都不對,怎麼說... 看起來就有點手腳不靈活的感覺)
就等到白天到鏡子前擺擺看姿勢,再繼續.
第一階段上色算結束了,
上色用的就是一開始設定的色盤,通常色盤在上色過程中也會改一點,不過目前為止,顏色看起來很正常.
花的顏色會再白點,背景想要清新點... 不過,我還在考慮,如果太多細節怕會複雜化整個畫面.
很多部分我還不確定我會怎麼處理,至少,圖不再像一開始那樣"一片綠".
細節加上後那種陰暗感就會去掉的.
I do not have the time, nor do I feel inspired, to fix the flawed poses of the characters before the weekend. I know that I need to take care of them but they can wait a few days. So, instead, I sat down and doodled a little.
This is the bird that is going to be sitting on the spirit's shoulder. I feel safe in painting it now as I can always paint over and fix the position of it when the rest of the image is ready to catch up with it. Looked at quite a few references (I've borrowed a book on exotic birds from my best friend) but I don't think this bird looks like any living bird I've seen.
Thought behind the colours: The bird will have colours that pick up nearly every other colour in the image. It's encompassing the red, the brow, the green, the yellow and the blue. It'll be a little more dominantly blue in the final version, I think, but the other colours will be present... bringing the picture together. When I use birds in my images, they're carrying a little message.
Next update on the painting: next week, repainting the poses.
我沒時間也沒靈感去修正主角們的姿勢,至少再周末前都不會.就讓她們倆再等幾天吧~
坐下開始亂塗...
這隻鳥呢~ 應該會靠在精靈主人的肩膀上,鳥姿勢還是色彩可以等圖的其他部分完成後再修改.
看了很多參考 (跟好朋借了本介紹奇特鳥類的書),不過我還是覺得它看起來不像任何一隻我看過的鳥.
這隻鳥幾乎用了整張圖所有的顏色 --- 紅, 褐, 綠, 黃, 跟藍, 我想,到最後,藍色應該會占絕大部分.
其他顏色還是會在,這樣才能跟周圍環境融合.
選擇鳥類放進圖裡是有其特別意義在裡頭.
下一篇呢就是修正主角們的姿勢了~
After much work, a lot of repainting, and some serious head-scratching, I've changed the poses of the characters, along with some of the lighting. I feel it's more dynamic and has some more life this way.
I've also started to whittle down into the details a little. Not so much that it shows too much here, but I'll be getting there soon enough. I have the nature-spirit looking as regal as I want her, here... and the human looks as if though she is fainting, or fawning. The hand on the shoulder has been moved to around the waist - I felt it was necessary for both the balance and the composition. One has to kill many of one's 'babies' when painting, but giving up the hand on the shoulder allowed me to keep the pose of the human's feet.
Next, I will start working on the gracefulness of the lines and shapes. I'll bring the skin colours forward as I go - there is some work to be done, there, the repainting brought in too many browns and reds. I want more greens. This is, of course, a progress picture so I can (I hope!) get away with some mistakes.
I've also decided that the bird on nature's shoulder (or maybe right above it, anyway... the shoulder that is, not the bird), will be gaspping with its beak open and eyes furious - I've taken to heart the criticism of the concept sketch's deadness... and realised it might add a little if the bird is not entirely willing to go gentle into that good old night.
As for the background... I'm still thinking of an appletree... but I have decided that it will have to be discreet, next to unseen, because the foreground and mid will be filled to the brim and overflowing with nature's whim (flowers, fruit, butterflies, birds, snakes, lizards, insects - all somewhere in between brilliantly alive and decayingly dead).
反反覆覆塗過不知幾遍,抓頭次數也數不清了.改了姿勢跟一點光影,現在看起來有力多了,也比較活.
我也開始精緻,也許還看不出來...
我想要那精靈主人表現出一種誘惑的感覺,像在說"我想要你..." 嘿嘿~然後,人類部份當然要有看起來像受誘惑之後的暈眩與著迷.原本精靈的手是放在肩膀,現在是移到腰間 --- 當然是基於平衡與整體畫面的考量.
有失就有得,我放棄了原先的手與肩膀姿勢,保留了原先的腳動作.
下一步就會開始精緻線面與外形,膚色也要再加強.重覆塗後變得有點黃褐跟偏紅, 我想要多點綠色.
至於那隻鳥呢~我想畫嘴巴驚訝大張,雙眼透露忿怒的樣子 --- 就如原始設定,"死亡"的訊息. 也許會再加些別的,如果那隻鳥不配合的話....
背景呢~我還是想畫顆蘋果樹... 不過,要謹慎安排... 因為考慮到前中景也許會有很多東西,到時跟其他物件一塊就太滿了.
So finally, I've sketched in the background. I've had it in mind for some time now, down to the last curve of the branches. I'm funny that way, I tend to sketch in my head long before I put it on paper.
The colours surprised me as they emerged. There's a lot more red than I had expected, but now that it's there, I really don't want to change it. Granted, the apples to the left of the human will be rotting towards the ground so the colours there will be altered a little towards brown-yellow.
I've worked with custom brushes, here - soft splattered things with lots of round shapes that made it easier to bring out the texture of the tree. In addition, I've used my slightly soft-edged round brush with the pressure set to both opacity and shape.
I'm thinking the final background will have a bit more contrast. I'm thinking some of the apples (or peaches? I might go for peaches instead, less cliche) will be much closer to the camera, as well as tumbled on the ground. Next step is, I think, somewhat obvious. I now need to start working in the myriad of birds and flowers, leaves and bees and butterflies that will occupy the surrounding space. They need to move in a smooth flow across the picture so that I can keep the lines I'm thinking of.
For the tree, I'm looking at a lot of apple tree images to figure it out, but I'm going with a more Asian style on the branches and the curve of the thing.
Oh well! On towards the next step!
終於輪到畫背景了,我已經想了好一段時間了,連樹幹要怎麼彎都想好了.我有點好笑, 不過,我喜歡在腦袋裡想清楚後才開始畫.
塗完後浮現的顏色讓我有些訝異,雖然紅色部分比我想像得多,不過看起來不錯, 所以就不改了,決定了,人類左邊的會有些一些掉落的壞蘋果,這部分的背景的顏色就有點變化而呈現黃褐色.
背景樹的部分用的是自製筆刷,一些淡化的圓點 --- 這樣畫起來簡單得多,另外,這筆刷, 不透明度與形狀都設定為壓力感壓.
我想最後背景的對比應該會提高,蘋果有點俗,改成水蜜桃好了,有些水果會掉落而滾到前頭,下一步呢,我會開始畫一堆鳥、花草、葉子、蜜跟蝴蝶,來放在周圍的空間.排列的方式一定要平順,才能保存我想要的線面.
樹的部分我參考了很多不同種的蘋果樹,不過樹幹的部分我想我會選擇亞洲品種的那種彎曲.
好了~前進下一步.
Another step in the colouring process.
I've now found my rhythm, I think. I've sort of hooked on to the concept. I think it's best I make clear, again, that this picture IS about a master and a servant, but it is not to be obvious who is who. I could easily turn Nature into only Master, or I could turn her into only Servant - but that's not what I want to convey here. Nature both serves and rules, she is wounded and she retaliates... much like man.
I do not -want- Nature to be obviously a ruler over Man. The human girl wilts against the spirit but is she weaker? The grass under her feet will have turned brown, the peaches have rotted, scattered around her toes lie dead butterflies caught in mid-flight. I don't want the picture to be a great big upset or a struggle - it's much slower than that, man's relationship against nature.
Anyway, I talk too much - I just wanted to make sure that everyone understands that I am not trying to turn the Nature character into more of a 'boss'. I want her to be of a dual nature.
I've been diving into details, lately, but I'm still playing around with the colours, subtly. I think I'll do a jump into the snakes in her hair and more detailing on butterflies and birds when I feel up to painting again.
我想我找到我想要的節奏了,我想我有點被構圖想法勾住,我想還是稍微解釋一下,圖是關於主僕,不過這圖的兩者關係我並不想讓它太明顯,精靈部分也許是主人,也可能是僕人... 大自然是服務也是掌控,如果受了傷害,她會想報復... 就跟人類一樣.
呵~我想我講太多了 --- 我的目的只是想說清楚,精靈(代表大自然) 不一定是主子.
雖然我開始處理細部,不過還是稍微玩一下顏色.我想我會開始畫精靈頭髮部份的蛇,蝴蝶跟鳥也會開始細緻化,只要感覺到了.
I've been working on it, all over the place, for a while now. Finishing off the colours (they've nearly settled now) and then, insanely, starting on the spirit's face. I've had insomnia, there was really little else to occupy myself with.
I've tried to take in as much advice as I've been able to - I can't follow every single piece of it, unfortunately, not with opinions as varied as this but this is all very helpful even so :]
I think I've got the look in the spirit's eyes down pat. I'm happy with how the mask is coming along and will mostly do texture work on the mask and more flowers for her, when I get back to this step - it's really getting ahead of myself... but I must say that I waited with the face for MUCH longer than I normally do when I paint. It's not uncommon for me to start out painting a face and then building an entire picture up around the features. Not so this time around, however. But, gee, I just noticed that I've done no work at all on her forehead, it looks horrid. Oh well. All in time.
I think I might start on my second concept tomorrow if I have the time. Let this one rest for a while because I want to think about exactly what I'll be doing and where I'll be taking it. Irony has it that the step before this one, I accidentally over-saved the original psd with a smaller version of it that I had shown a friend (NOT the first time I do this to a painting). So I had to enlarge, blur, and then paint over the darn thing. It made me a little pissy but I think I've fixed it now.
玩了好一陣子顏色,我想應該已經定案了,馬上來處理精靈的臉部,(嚴重失眠, 我也沒別的事可做.).
我儘量廣納各方意見,不過不是每個我都能遵循 --- 很遺憾,各方對這圖的意見有點多元, 不過仍是很有幫助的.
精靈面具下的眼睛我想處理好了,我蠻高興那個面具造成的效果,面具的質感跟裝飾面具的花會再回來處理.進度真是超前,我想我是等待太久了,先從臉開始,再往外處理周圍 --- 我通常這麼做,唉呀~我現在才發現,我忘了處理她的前額,真是糟糕.
我想明天假如有時間我會繼續畫.就擱一段時間吧~我想我需要想想,確定我要畫些什麼, 要怎麼做,有點諷刺的是... 做這步驟前,我不小心把檔存成給朋友看的縮小版 (這也不是第一次了),所以後來我必須放大,模糊,再修補.這讓我有點生氣,不過我想我已經搞定.
I've not managed to get around to my second concept yet. I've switched music from Bach to the soundtrack from Interview with a Vampire (not such a good movie, but the music is soooo beautiful), and it's really inspiring. Not more so than Bach, but in a different way if you know what I mean.
Anyway, I've worked on the other girl's face, as well as on two of the birds. I think I like her expression now - see the discreet little smile? I might hitch the eyebrows a little lower, later, I'm not sure yet. It's subject to change anyway - everything is at this point.
Oh, and I've used references for the birds' flying positions, but not the actual birds if that make any sense. Once more, I doubt they exist in the real world. I'm not sure if I like the bigger bird's face yet, I'll get back to it (I want it to look like the bird in the concept sketch as far as the colours go, but I managed to mess the face up on this one, too, man I suck).
So far, I've had so many wonderful suggestions that I don't think I shall ever stop working on this image. As soon as I'll have more time (tonight maybe? No, wait, I have a visitor tonight, waah) I'll get to the background and start working on those myriads of peaches, sigh.
目前,我還沒辦法往下一步畫,原本聽的是巴哈音樂,現在改聽夜訪吸血鬼電影原聲帶音樂 (電影雖然不好看,不過背景音樂超棒).這真的很刺激我的靈感,雖然不像巴哈的音樂那樣,不過不同的方式刺激... 你知道我的意思.
開始處理人類女生的臉,還有那兩隻鳥,我想我喜歡她的表情了現在,看到嘴角那個小小笑容了嗎? 嗯~我想我把眉毛畫得有點低,應該,我不確定.不過確定的是,我會改改看.
喔~對了,鳥飛翔的樣子我有參考,不過不是參考真的鳥類,希望看起合理,(有點懷疑真有這種鳥嗎~) 不確定是不是喜歡前頭那隻大鳥的臉... 不過待會再修 (我想要那鳥看起來像我之前畫的那隻鳥... 至少顏色... 不過最後我還是搞砸這鳥的臉,真是夠白的)
目前我收到不少好建議,我真是不該停下來不畫的,只要有多點時間... (今晚? ㄜ~ 不行, 我有訪客,啊~) 下次會回到背景,開始處理那些數不清的水蜜桃 (嘆)
I'm a sucker for details. I intend, however, for this to be the most detailed picture I've ever painted. I want it to be one of those where you can discover new little things when you look at it closely: a bird's skull in the grass, a little butterfly on one of the flowers. It's going to take time, though, and effort - but detailing is honestly the most fun part of a painting for me.
I made the mistake of flattening the birds and the butterflies to the background, which is hateful since it'll be difficult to move them around now. I want them all swarming up behind or above Nature, though, or falling to their deaths behind Man.
What you're looking at here is a full size cut-out of Nature's head, complete with all the bugs and butterflies and, ick, even a spider perched on top of her mask (how I hate spiders!). The details aren't done, of course, especially the birds are still prone to change - I'll be adding some motion to their wings, I think, but not too much of it (don't want to disturb the picture as a whole).
Some of the butterflies are in early sketch stadium, and some show, er, heavy traces of being part of a brush I made that I've swept over the edges of her hair to get their places right, before I'll overpaint them with more individual features (I can't believe I actually have a butterfly brush now, man that's scary).
The mask texture is extremely closely referenced from the mask sitting on top of my monitor. It's being very helpful, boy am I glad I made it, heheh.
Anyway, this will be the last update on this picture for a while. I honestly need to take a break from it.
我超愛刻細節,這次,我要讓這張成為我最細緻的一張圖.我想讓你們每次看圖時都會新發現一些小東西,像草地上鳥兒的頭骨 和 花朵上的小蝴蝶,雖然很花時間跟心力,不過講真話,細緻是我覺得畫畫最有趣的地方.
我犯了些錯誤,不小心把鳥跟蝴蝶合併到背景上,很要命,因為這樣就不能移動了,我想要背景到處都看到這些鳥跟蝴蝶.
這張圖秀的是精靈的頭的實際大小,有蟲,蝴蝶,甚至是面具上的蜘蛛 (我痛恨蜘蛛啊~). 細節部分當然未完成,特別是那些鳥,還需要修改.
鳥的翅膀到時會加些動感,不過不會太多,免得影響到整體.
一些蝴蝶是我之前做出來的筆刷,我刷過精靈的頭髮邊緣,這樣蝴蝶才能放對位置.再來,再分別上色.(我竟然有蝴蝶筆刷, 真是恐怖)
面具的質感是參加我螢幕上放的那一個,那個面具幫了我不少忙,嘿嘿.
不管怎麼樣,這張會是最近的最後一張了,我真的需要點休息時間啦.
So, I promised not to work more on the painting for now. Honestly, if you see me posting another step after this, feel free to decapitate. Please. I need to move on to the other concept and give this a break.
I've, er, worked on the details here. I've changed the colours a little. I've... worked on more details, and then some details. I'm very happy with the result of Nature's dress, and how Mankind's dress's fabrics are turning out (at this scale, you'll only see hints of the very faint patterns there. My favourite part of the picture right now is Mankind's elbows. How's that for a weird thing, eh?
Next? I'm not even PLANNING the next step in the picture. I MUST go do something ELSE now before this drives me nuts. It's just SO much fun to paint those dying birds and butterflies - does that make me a very morbid person? I don't like animals dying, but drawing feathers flying every which way and butterfly wings in all their prettiness scattering like so much dust - that IS fun. To quote a very nifty fellow - "I felt like destroying something beautiful."
Anyway, enjoy. I'll go beat my head against the wall now for drawing when I said I wouldn't.
既然我答應短期內不再碰這張圖,假如你看到我再貼新步驟的話,請用力摘掉我的頭.拜託,我需要轉移到別張圖,給這張點喘息空間.
我加了點細節,改了點色調.很高興精靈衣服處理出來後的結果,人類的衣料也不錯 (目前的大小能看到的花紋只有淡淡的).我目前最喜歡的是人類的眉毛,很奇怪嘛?!
下一步? 還沒想到,現在我必須畫些別的,不然會抓狂.畫那些死掉的鳥跟蝴蝶畫得很高興... 我是不是有點病態? 我實際上是不喜歡動物死掉,不過畫掉落的羽毛,跟灰化的蝴蝶翅膀倒很有趣.引用某人的俏皮話: "我覺得像破壞些漂亮東西".
不管怎樣,慢慢欣賞吧~如果我再畫我就撞牆.
Oh my. I couldn't keep my hands off of it, could I?
My life is over. Someone, feel free to decapitate me - I said you could - because I can't... leave... the picture... alone.
I'm thinking I might have to do the other concept on the side and just keep working on this one since I've become so obsessive with it. Sigh. I sat up all night working on it, and secretly - while claiming I was NOT working on it - I've sat around painting grass. The grass isn't easy, I'll tell you that much. I made a brush that really helped out... then I made a second brush... then I sat around and painted over every stroke that the brush did, here and there and up and down, trying to weave the strands of grass together to make for a nice look. I found some pictures from last summer of Azrael frolicking in the grass - they helped a lot. Then I went into Painter, painted some wild, serious grass textures and I did soft light overlays of it on the painting in photoshop. It's been, to tell the truth, quite of a hell. I feel like it isn't nearly done yet, though. I'm lucky I work on such a large format, as it's easier to make the individual strands look right, but even so... phew. Phew!
As you might notice... there's some serious detailing and sharpening up going on here, too. I feel that I'm pretty much done with Humanity's feet - I might hate feet, but I'm quite happy with how those turned out (whee!). I feel like I'm pretty much done with Nature's face and the upper part of her dress (with the flowers, etc). I need about twice as much birds and butterflies and such, which will be quite a chore, but the feeling of 'getting somewhere' with the picture is quite enjoyable. I have to fight it, though - it's like I've got it reined in like a wild horse, and it's trying to drag me off though I have other things to do. If I'm not resilient enough, I'll end up awake all night tonight, too, narrowing in on details and adding little, symbolic stuff.
I've started to shift the painting back and forth between Photoshop and Painter now. Sometimes, I feel Painter can add that last inch of 'life' to a texture, that is so difficult to pinpoint with Photoshop.
Also, I've considered a sweeping branch along the left edge of the picture for some time now. Rotten peaches dangling from it, and some stiff, dead spiders (ghostly white, the way dead spiders sometimes look) perching on the branch. I'm not entirely sure if it'll compromise the image but I'm going to give it a try. Later, anyway. For now, I need sleep.
Sleep.
天啊~我就是不能不碰這張圖.我死定了,那個誰啊,請來砍我的頭吧~來吧,我實在沒辦法... 不...碰... 這...張...圖.
我想我必須把另一張圖放一邊,繼續奮鬥這張, 因為我真的迷上這張了.(嘆) 我一整晚都在畫,雖然我一邊說我沒在畫....... 實際上,我一直在畫草地.
說真的,那草真不好畫,我做了隻筆刷來畫,真的很好用,接著我做了第二隻筆...... 然後我開始上上下下,左左右右來回刷... 試著把草地搞好,我找到去年夏天 Azrael 草地上玩耍的照片--- 這幫了不少忙.接著,我又跑到 PAINTER,做了個草地紋路,再回PS裡貼, 改成柔光屬性.不過,看起來還是很慘,還好圖蠻大的,可以讓我一根根修... 呼~
就像你注意到的,我處理了不少細部跟銳利部分.人類的腳差不多完成了,我很討厭畫腳丫子,不過畫出來還蠻不錯的,精靈的臉跟上半部的衣服 (包括花) 也處理完了.
我要在多一倍鳥跟蝴蝶,有點複雜.不過能畫到一部分就很好了.
我有點掙扎,就像被韁繩拖住,雖然我有別的是要做.
如果我的彈性不夠,我想我會一整晚都不能睡... 一整晚畫細部跟代表性的東西.
我來來回回PS跟PT.有時,我覺得PAINTER 可以加加加... 直到入最後一吋.
有些紋路PS是做不出來的.
還有,我想在圖的左邊刷上樹幹.畫些垂著,已爛掉的水蜜桃,跟一些樹幹上,已經死掉僵硬的蜘蛛 (慘白色).不確定這樣好不好看,不過還是試試.
待會再試試,先睡覺. 睡覺.....
Guess who worked on the painting again?
It feels better now that I've ditched the other concept (or, rather - I finished it, but not for the contest). It's a better thing to focus on only one painting at the time, I think, and now this is it. If I feel like doing another painting, I should do it on the side, finish it quickly as I usually do, and then get back to the main concept.
Now... I've listened to the advice, and I decided to add a dead bird. I hated painting it, hated looking at references for it, but I like the result (even if I don't like looking at it). I have issues looking at dead animals - much more so than dead people. Is that very weird of me?
To make up for the dead bird, I painted a little field mouse in the folds of Nature's clothes. I've worked on a blurry, distant bird in the background. I've also reworked the folds on Humanity's clothes a bit, but I'll show that in the next update, for now there are just these details.
Anyway, as always, I appreciate all the comments and all the lovely advice :] Thank you, folks!
猜誰又在畫圖了?
覺得比較好了,至少我畫完另一張.最好一次專心畫一張的好,不然就要把兩張圖擺一塊,其中一張要快速畫完,再回來畫重點的那張.
現在呢~我採用一個建議 --- 畫隻死掉的鳥.不喜歡畫這,不過還是喜歡呈現出來的效果, 雖然我不喜歡看到這.我不喜歡看死掉的動物更勝於死人,我是不是很奇怪?
畫完死掉的鳥後,我又接著畫了田鼠,塞在精靈的裙摺裡.遠處則加了隻有點模糊的鳥, 人類的衣摺部分也稍做修飾,不過這留到下一步,目前就這些.
最後, 我還是要謝謝大家的建議與評語. 非常感謝!
Myriads upon myriads of layers set to soft light, slowly flattened into the background. Little layers with single, separate strands of grass, smudged here and there, erased at the edges, melted down and then textured, and I don't EVER want to paint grass again for as long as I live. I swear. Next picture I paint will be all stone. ALL stone.
I can't say I'm entirely sure what the changes are between this step and the one before. I worked more on the grass, more on the background. I've worked on Humanity's dress, and I've moved the birds around a little. I added a tiny lizard to the top of Nature's dress but I'm not entirely sure if I'll keep it there or not. I made Nature's feet smaller, but I think I might end up repainting the front foot entirely.
I'll freely admit to feet being my greatest weakness in the human anatomy. I've always found them terribly unattractive. There is nothing beautiful about their shape, not to my eyes anyway. They're knobbly and veiny and ugly. I don't like the shape of toes. But I'll get there. I'll give her a pretty foot even if it'll cost me my life! Hahah. (So, don't worry, I know there's something up with her feet, I'm working on it)
I need more birds. I want a couple of blurry ones closer to the viewer. I want a few more hidden in the trees in the background. I might add another dead one on the ground but I sort of don't really want to - might add feathers and such, instead. This picture is turning out to be quite the task, and quite the challenge for me. I've never tried anything like this before: my pictures are usually much simpler. This is, well, like painting ten pictures all at once - there's so much to think about, so many details that need to be perfect. It's driving me nuts.
Can you guys spot where the tiny little mouse is hiding?
I'm glad I let the picture rest for a while. It feels better now. Sorry about the compression, I didn't want to shrink it too much.
把所有無數的圖層集起來,全設成柔光,然後再慢慢地合併入背景.
少數圖層,一些單或分開的草,這弄髒點,那弄髒點,擦掉邊緣,熔掉,然後再質感化.
最後,我發誓我這輩子不會再畫草地了.
下張圖將會是石頭,全部都是石頭.
我無法確定這張跟上張有什麼不同的.
我花比較多時間在草上 跟背景上,甚至,一點那人類的衣服.移動了鳥的位置,我也增加了一隻小蜥蜴在精靈的裙擺上.不過我不肯定我會不會將保留它.
我使精靈的腳小點,但我有可能得重畫整個腳.
我必須承認腳是我整個人類解剖內的最大的弱點.我總發現了他們非常不吸引我.形狀又不好看,以我來看,他們一陀陀還有靜脈,超醜的.我也不喜歡腳趾的形狀,但我還是會畫好,我會給她一隻漂亮的的腳,既使花我一輩子! 哈哈~ (所以, 不用擔心, 我會畫好它的)
我需要很多鳥,我要幾隻模糊的,離觀察者較近,然後更多些掩藏在樹在背景中.
我也許加一個死在地面上,不過我有點兒不想要,也許就增加些羽毛這樣.
這張圖的結果是相當浩大,對我來說是一個相當大的挑戰,我從未嘗試像這樣;我的圖通常很簡單,這張圖就像同時畫十圖片,很多要想,要細緻,要完美 --- 真是會讓我瘋狂.
看得到那隻小老鼠藏到哪了嗎?
我現在很高興,可以把這圖先放一邊,已經看起來好多了,縮到這麼小,真是抱歉,我真的不想縮到這麼小.
I can't describe how helpful I'm finding this entire process. I've never done a WIP like this before - it's extremely rewarding. So. Just wanted to say thanks. I'm going to paint a picture when this is done and I'm going to dedicate it to everyone who's helping me out here.
Anyway. Here's another step. I've started to make the background drop back a little (lowering its contrast, mainly, also blurring parts by excessive and very careful smudging and overpainting). Also did some minor adjustments to the poses and the light, as well as some more work on the texture of nature's skin - I want it textured, but not too heavily around the face. More up the arms and legs. Don't think I've added anything else
我形容這整個過程對我有多有用,我從未做像這樣的,真的很值得,想先說聲謝謝.
這張畫完後,我會畫一張圖來謝謝大家的幫助.
不管如何,這個是下一個步驟.我先將背景往後拉點 --- 主要先降低它的對比,利用大範圍小心,非常仔細弄髒和蓋塗.
並且做了一些姿勢跟光的小調整,並且加些自然的皮膚紋理-面孔附近不要太紋路化,手臂和腿就較多紋路 (不要想說我加了別的).
I've just received a promise from someone to have this printed at a size to cover a wall from floor to ceiling for my livingroom. I think that would be pretty neat.
Anyway. I'm just working on details now. I'll still fix the foot, just not today, I don't have much time. What did I do now? I unblurred the butterfly. I've worked a little on minor things here and there. Only updating so you guys know I'm still going strong at it and I'll be done in time for the headline. I'm hoping sometime early this week. I'm happy with where the background is now and the only things I know I need to take care of are the feet of Nature, and small stuff like adding some more background birds and butterflies and some more peaches on the ground. Then we're there
剛收到某人承諾的禮物,一張可以從客廳天花板到地板完全蓋住的輸出品,很棒~
不管如何,我現在努力處理細節,仍會修理腳,不過不是今天,我沒有時間.
我現在做了什麼呢? 我反模糊蝴蝶,跟一些小地方.
傳這張上來主要是讓大家看,我還是很努力,而且會及時畫完,希望是這個禮拜過完前.
我是很喜歡背景,目前唯一的事我知道我必須搞好的是精靈的腳,跟一些背景中的小鳥跟蝴蝶,還有地上的水蜜桃,這樣就差不多了.
It took a lot of work and effort and re-planning, but I finally redid not only the foot but her entire leg. The old position of it bothered me so much that I decided against it in the end. A graceful foot was far easier in this new position, and I also think it created a more dynamic pose between the two of them. Either way, I'm getting really close now. I can feel it, you know? A finger's width away, and then I'm done. It's been such a wonderful journey, creating this piece, and I learned so much about both painting and, believe it or not, myself.
I realise that the new pose is... well, it's a little more sensual than the old one. It wasn't an intention, but I can sort of see it now - but I'm just going to have to live with it. To those who really liked the bloody wound on Nature's leg, I'm sorry, but I think I've decided to be a bit more discreet about it. I'm going to add a bit more blood to Humanity's hand, but keep it part hidden behind the leg. I don't want to be too obvious about the destruction she causes - the birds and butterflies are enough of a give-away.
My biggest problem right now is actually the title, still. I just can't come up with something that I feel happy with. The title either ends up being too descriptive - or too obscure. You guys have given me some wonderful suggestions to work with, though (and some wonderfully silly ones!)... I just need to get it right, the way you get it right when you practically get an exclamation mark or a light bulb popping up above your head in a typical cartoon manner.
Oh, and I'm going to try to bring the bird in the background (the one on the branch) out a little bit more. I fixed Nature's boobs, I think - I want them discreet but, uh, I don't want it to seem like she only has ONE huge instead of two of moderate and elegant size. Thanks for pointing that out :] I also brought her shoulder back out as it was fading into the background - the kind of thing you won't notice when you're too concentrated on other things.
花了很多功夫跟努力,還有重新計劃,不過,到最後,不只腳,而是整隻腿重畫.原本的姿勢很難搞,所以我乾脆重畫,新的腿優雅也簡單多,而且,結果呈現於兩者間是多了些力道.不管怎樣,我已經很接近了,我可以感覺到了,就如一個手指遠的感覺,就快畫完了.畫這圖的整個過程可以說是個很棒的旅程,我學到很多東西,不單是畫圖還有"自己".
剛發覺,新姿勢比起舊的有點特別.這不是刻意的,不過看起來有點... 不過我必須適應. 給那些想看到精靈來點血樣傷口的,我必須說抱歉,我得考慮... 人類部分會加些血在手上,不過會部分隱藏在腿後.我不想把她的"破壞力"表現太過明顯... 那些死掉的鳥跟蝴蝶已經夠了.
我現在最大的問題呢就是圖的名字,想不到適合的,想到的不是太描述就是太暗黑,你們一定要給我些建議啊~靈光一現 或 靈機一動的那種 (頭頂有個電燈泡 然後忽然亮起... 有點卡通樣)
喔~我現在試著把背景樹隻上的鳥帶出來點... 我修了下精靈的臀部,我想,我要她的臀部部分不是一大陀而是兩邊優美適度的臀部.感謝指出這個問題 :]
還有,把她的肩膀往後調了點... 像有點隱入背景的感覺,讓你不會太去注意到.至少不會分散你注其他部分的注意力.
So I started doodling on her lips, fixing some things... and found that the emotion was more nicely expressed if I parted them just a little. Is anyone in agreement with me here? Are the lips to the right better? I would just like to know before I do any more shading on them the way they are now.
I\'m having fun with the piece again. I did some changes to her hip/leg position in line with the suggestions and I feel she\'s looking better, I\'ll show you later. For now, though, LIPS!
(Oh, and I know there\'s something weird going on with the bugs, I think what happened was that I\'ve had two slightly different versions and I was erasing stuff to get a version that was in between... and the bugs got caught in the middle. I\'ll fix it
現在呢就開始亂塗她的嘴唇... 修整些東西... 發現感情表現上,如果嘴唇分開點會很好.同意嗎? 右邊那個...? 我想先知道你們的意見... 然後再繼續修陰影.
這圖塗起來很有趣,我換了她臀部跟腳的角度,看起來好看多了... 我待會在給你們看,現在,嘴唇!
(喔~ 我知道那些蟲蟲們怪怪的,我想應該是我用了兩個太接近的系列,還有我擦掉了些東西去製造兩個系列中間的感覺... 我會修整的.
All right. I'm still undecided on whether I want it flipped this way or the other. If I do flip it this way, it's because I like the symbolism of death moving clockwise -- as if every second ticking by causes more damage. If I keep it the other way around, then it's because everyone else is so used to seeing it turned that way - personally, I've been flipping it left and right ever since I first started out. I find that's the only way to deal with a painting properly - otherwise it has a tendency of getting skewed. Anyway, I just can't decide. It's so hard.
Adding more birds, etc, to break the emptiness behind Humanity up. I'm particularly fond of the big one up in the corner, though I might shrink him (though I'd rather not). Him being the furthest away from Humanity, he's only just starting to fall apart... feathers flying from his pretty green wings. I'm submitting the final one tomorrow night, my time.
Nature's face is completely done, and this is the look I settled on.
I really appreciate the help on that one, I ended up compromising - keeping her lips almost shut but not quite instead of more open as in the second version. Anyway, I've decided not to do any more changes to her features.
好吧~我還是不能決定到底要翻哪邊... 假如是這邊,就單純因為我喜歡死亡的象徵是呈順時針走向... 時針每秒過去都會造成更大的傷害.如果是另一邊,則是因為大部分人的習慣性看法,事實上,我從一開始就一直翻來翻去了.我發現這樣可以觀察檢視圖的正確性, 不然很容易傾向某一邊,唔~ 我就是無法決定,好難~
加了些鳥啊其他物件,不讓人類後頭的地方太空... 我特別喜歡角落邊那隻最大的,也許會要縮小點 (也許不).牠離人類最遠,他剛開始凋零... 羽毛從他漂亮的綠色翅膀飄出.
精靈的臉完全完成了,就固定這樣.我很感謝大家在這精靈上給的幫助,最後我妥協了, 她的嘴唇維持閉著,不過還是有點開不過不像之前那個這麼開... 不管如何,精靈的特徵不會變了.
I've not been entirely happy with Humanity's face, so I set down and repainted her. I still wanted a cute, rather than beautiful face... but I wanted to fix the anatomical flaws and the mess-ups, plus I needed to add the same amount of details and depth that I have in Nature's face. It doesn't do to detail one character and not the other.
So this is what she looks like now. I am fairly confident I won't do any more changes to her face. I am really happy with the look :D
我不是很滿意人類這角色的臉部,所以,我重塗她.我還是想要一個可愛但不是很漂亮的臉... 我想要修正結構上的問題跟錯誤,加上人類至少要有跟精靈差不多的精細度.
所以,這是她現在的樣子.我相信應該不須要再改還是變更,我很滿意她現在的臉.
This is pretty much my second to last update. I'm taking off for a bit and when I get back, I'll sit down and finish the write-up, do the last few changes and then upload the final. I'm so nervous it's not even funny.
Thanks everyone for the great title suggestions. It's been a chore to pick one but right now it's looking like I'll go with 'Spoiled', as I like the multiple ways I can interpret it and it seems to flow well with the picture.
Changes I've done here are, of course, Humanity's new face, the peachier neck, the fixed leg of Nature, some brush strokes on Humanity's feet... uh, I shrunk one big, ugly butterfly that I didn't much like at all and I think it helped the composition. I added some dead flowers on Humanity's side. And that's pretty much it. Just little details to whittle at, at this point.
這個應該是我最後兩個更新了,回家後就要開始寫些相關東西,做最後修正,然後就可以上傳最後完成版了,我很緊張...
謝謝大家給的標題意見... 很難抉擇,不過現在整張圖的感覺應該很適合"spoiled" (寵壞)這個標題,不管怎麼看都很適合.
改變的部分就屬人類的臉啦,有點蜜桃色的脖子,精靈修過的腿,人類的腳... ㄜ~ 還有我縮小那隻超大又醜在人類旁邊的的蝴蝶.大概修改過的東西就這樣吧.
As far as I'm concerned, the piece is done now. I have to stop at some point, and this is it. I'm submitting this one to show the changes to the faces, the next submission will be the final piece with the writing to go along with it.
I can't thank everyone enough for all the help I've received. I just need to let it go at some point or I'll just collapse from redoing the tiniest little details. I'll never be done if I don't stop now, ha ha.
到目前為止,這張已經算完成了,這張圖就單純貼上來讓大家看臉的變化.
感謝這句話不足夠代表大家對我的幫助.
細部越畫越細,我想我需要停下來完成,不然就沒完沒了了.
Because Theresa asked, I'm uploading these detail shots while waiting for the final piece to submit. Talk about butterflies in my tummy! that's what I get for painting so many of them!
Huge thanks, everyone, I think I'll go throw up now.
因為有人問,我就放了這細部上來,然後就要上傳完成圖了.
大感謝.
Final Image
At times, Nature is the master of Humanity... and at other times, Humanity certainly rules Nature.
Nature makes us hurry inside when she weeps rain upon the world. With hurricanes, she toys with us. Tornadoes are used to punish, earthquakes to throw us about like pebbles in a child's game. We live on her land, and through that, she rules over us. Our very bodies belong to her - they age in rhythm with her, and they are subject to urges and desires that she imposes on us. In some ways, we're little but slaves to Nature's ways.
But Humanity... on the other hand... has found another way to dominate. Humanity destroys what we touch. We reach out towards pretty things in greed, and leave a trail of death behind. We fence the woods in, we run over the animals and poison the seas. Ours is a different kind of mastery but it is one nevertheless. Nature serves us because she has no other choice. Humanity always expects Nature to mend what damage we've done: heal the woods burned down, return the animals hunted to extinction and cleanse the seas... never considering what will happen the day Nature is no longer there to catch us.
曾經,自然是人類的主宰.... 曾經,人類也控制了自然.
自然讓我們倉促入內,當她啜泣下著雨,以颶風,她將我們如玩偶般玩弄,龍捲風為懲罰,地震向我們投擲石頭像在玩兒童的遊戲.我們居住在她的土地,並且經過土地,她統治著我們.我們的身體屬於她-遵循變老的節奏,強加我們的急切與慾望.在某方面, 我們是脆弱的,如奴隸,依循自然的方式.
但人類... 另一方面... 發現了其它方式掌控.人類毀壞任何接觸的事物.我們貪婪伸向一切美麗的事物,獨留下死亡的足跡,我們揮砍樹林,我們獵殺動物和毒害海洋,我們的是一種完全不同的統治,但它是一個因果,自然伺服我們因為她沒有其它選擇,人類總盼望自然修補所有我們造成的傷害了: 癒合燃燒的樹林,動物返回重生,清淨受毒害的海洋... 從不想像會有這麼一天自然將不再在那裡等待我們.
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